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The Devil You Know with Sarah Marshall

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In the 1980s and 90s, Satan and his followers were accused of brainwashing children, sacrificing babies, and infiltrating North American society on a massive scale — yet these thousands of alleged Satanists were nowhere to be found. Even so, the narrative became embedded in our cultural memory, warping everything it touched — including the lives of innocent people.. And it never quite died out. In a new 8-part series, Sarah Marshall (You’re Wrong About) explores the tangled web of the Satanic Panic, in a journey that will take you everywhere from Victoria, B.C. to rural Kentucky to San Antonio, Texas. This is a show about the people who experienced the Satanic Panic in real-time — the believers, the skeptics, the bystanders, and the wrongfully-convicted. What was it like to be a psychologist told to look for Satanists in every case; a mother slowly recovering memories of supposed Satanic abuse; a teenager accused of conspiracy to murder? The stories of these eyewitnesses point us toward the real underlying problems — individual and societal — that the Panic was a response to. The fault, as ever, was not with Satanists, but in ourselves.

  1. ÉPISODE 1

    Episode 1: Did Swayze Start the Fire?

    In 1988, a young arts educator drove into a small town in Kentucky with a camera and a directive to teach photography to school kids. But she never got a chance. Instead, a full blown hysteria connecting her presence with other dark rumours swirling around about widespread ritual child sacrifice prompted a mad dash escape for her life. The truth behind the drama? Well, it involves Patrick Swayze and an environment where cops, social workers, teachers, parents and reporters were being primed to see Satanic crime everywhere. Can't wait for more episodes? Binge the entire series early on our YouTube channel and on our Apple True Crime channel ad-free for subscribers.

    39 min

  2. ÉPISODE 2

    Episode 2: Marylyn Remembers

    Michelle Remembers is the 1980 “biographical” book that brought the idea of Satanic cults into the mainstream. In it, Michelle Smith documents years of alleged Satanic ritual abuse and the man who helped her remember it, psychiatrist Lawrence Pazder. We talk to those who thought they knew Michelle and Larry best: their families. They tell us what it was like to witness the birth of the Satanic Panic from the most intimate vantage point — and how it shattered their lives.

    44 min

  3. ÉPISODE 3

    Episode 3: Moral (Panic) Entrepreneurship

    Mary de Young had always been interested in deviants and deviance. As a social-psychologist, she studied “behavior that broke the rules,” and whether the worst parts of a person’s behavior were innate, nurtured, or misunderstood. So when news broke in 1983 about a “new” form of child abuse that she had never heard of before, she was — as a researcher — intrigued, and — as a person — horrified. But as she began to investigate the cases, the details didn’t add up.

    45 min

  4. ÉPISODE 4 • ACCÈS ANTICIPÉ POUR LES PERSONNES ABONNÉES

    Episode 4: Bad Times, Good TV

    How did the Satanic Panic take hold? Whitney Phillips, a professor of journalism at the University of Oregon, guides us through the labyrinth of media and motifs that laid the groundwork for the Satanic Panic in politics and pop culture… and laid down the roots of our current day political landscape.

    48 min

  5. ÉPISODE 5 • ACCÈS ANTICIPÉ POUR LES PERSONNES ABONNÉES

    Episode 5: The Devil in Delaney

    The idea of “repressed memories" was having a moment. And for those suffering from intense grief, it provided an explanation for their pain. Delaney, a housewife and mother of two young boys living in Manitoba in the 1980s, starts seeking out counselors and psychiatrists to help her remember what happened in her childhood to explain her deep inner turmoil. Years later, her son Matt describes growing up amidst the Satanic Panic with a mother who struggled to find answers. We hear from Delaney herself through a biographical manuscript she wrote before she died, working through her memories of childhood trauma and eventual belief that Satanists were involved.

    53 min

  6. ÉPISODE 6 • ACCÈS ANTICIPÉ POUR LES PERSONNES ABONNÉES

    Episode 6: I’m Just a Teenage Cultist, Baby

    How does a victim of a school shooting become accused of masterminding the whole thing in the name of Satan? When Justin Sledge was 17, a friend of his opened fire at their high school, killing two people and wounding seven others. It was one of the first modern-day school shootings, even before Columbine. Over the next few weeks, their once tight-knit town is embroiled in fear and rumors as people search for a reason for the tragedy — eventually landing on a cult of devil worshippers. Justin finds himself at the center of these rumors, leading to him also being arrested and charged with conspiracy to commit murder.

    46 min

  7. ÉPISODE 7 • ACCÈS ANTICIPÉ POUR LES PERSONNES ABONNÉES

    Episode 7: Four Lesbians and a Baby

    Though it sounded like a wholesome sitcom premise — four lesbian housemates raise a baby in San Antonio — reality proved anything but. Instead, Liz, Anna, Cassie, and Kristy found themselves caught in a nightmare of a crime drama after being accused of Satanic abuse. They face all the twists and turns of court proceedings, junk science, Satanic allegations, and wrongful convictions — for 22 years.

    52 min

  8. ÉPISODE 8 • ACCÈS ANTICIPÉ POUR LES PERSONNES ABONNÉES

    Episode 8: Where Are We Now?

    Now that we know where we’ve been, where are we going? As the Satanic Panic receded from view, we almost forgot it had happened at all – until it came back. How do today’s moral panics compare to the one we just learned about? And what can we learn from the tragedy at Jonestown?

    56 min

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    A second helping from Satan: A closer look at Michelle Remembers

    Canadian director Sean Horlor’s film, Satan Wants You (2023), is a deep dive into the book "Michelle Remembers.” In this bonus episode, he talks to Sarah about the process of making that film and what it was like growing up in Victoria at its so-called satanic heyday.

    47 min
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In the 1980s and 90s, Satan and his followers were accused of brainwashing children, sacrificing babies, and infiltrating North American society on a massive scale — yet these thousands of alleged Satanists were nowhere to be found. Even so, the narrative became embedded in our cultural memory, warping everything it touched — including the lives of innocent people.. And it never quite died out. In a new 8-part series, Sarah Marshall (You’re Wrong About) explores the tangled web of the Satanic Panic, in a journey that will take you everywhere from Victoria, B.C. to rural Kentucky to San Antonio, Texas. This is a show about the people who experienced the Satanic Panic in real-time — the believers, the skeptics, the bystanders, and the wrongfully-convicted. What was it like to be a psychologist told to look for Satanists in every case; a mother slowly recovering memories of supposed Satanic abuse; a teenager accused of conspiracy to murder? The stories of these eyewitnesses point us toward the real underlying problems — individual and societal — that the Panic was a response to. The fault, as ever, was not with Satanists, but in ourselves.

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